It’s Jamie (Todd’s wife and business partner), and I’m here for another guest blog post. I know you all have missed me. And I’ve missed you too.
I think there is a misconception in the photography industry, and I would like to do my best to clear it up, or at least throw another idea out there for you to chew on and either swallow or spit back at me.
In our seven year career as photographers, we have worked at quite a few levels of the wedding photography market. And when I say “levels of the wedding photography market” I don’t mean to say that we have worked with hicks and yokels all the way up to hoity-toity snobs – though some may read into it that way (it is not, however, my intent or meaning). I mean instead that the budgets of weddings we have photographed, and the locations- have been wildly varied from a couple thousand dollar budget wedding in a one-horse town where the nicest restaurant was the Subway attached to the gas station- all the way up to a lavish six-figure plus budget wedding at the inarguably nicest hotel in town.
So, we can say, I think without argument, that we have photographed low-end weddings, middle market weddings, and high-end weddings. If you leave the first two years out of the equation (because we had no idea what we were doing on a business level, at that point, and were therefore charging an unsustainable sum- our fault, not the market’s)- we have made pretty close to the same averages from weddings across all markets- give or take $1-2,000. As a side note, in our experience, the biggest difference from a money standpoint, is that the “high-end” wedding clients we have had prefer to know every cost up-front and they generally prefer not to be nickel and dimed or sold to after the fact. Our experiences in the lower and middle market level clients (at least at the time)- were more comfortable with a lower buy-in, but enjoyed the process of buying more stuff later on. It required more involvement and hand-holding, but it was worth it. Your mileage may vary.
And, although I’m sure for some “high-end” wedding photographers- the higher end does mean more money overall. The choice to target the higher end of the market was more of an answer to “where do we fit best?” Where does our style of photography, our personality types, our professional demeanor, our comfort level, our manner of speaking, our approach and belief system- what part of the market is the closest to being a perfect fit for that?
I remember years ago sitting in a class at a national photography convention, given by a very “high-end” photographer. He did very well for himself and photographed beautiful, super-expensive weddings. I was crazy impressed, until he showed a slideshow of his work. In my opinion, it was mediocre at best. Maybe the rest of the audience was impressed, but I was not.
And then it hit me.
I strongly believe that the level of the market you work at does not equal the level of photographic skill and artistry you have. Now, I don’t think it’s okay to suck. You should certainly have professional level skills to be charging money. And let me be clear that I’m not talking about whatever photographer is popular or revered amongst other photographers. I’m strictly classifying market level by the budget (of the wedding NOT necessarily the photography) and overall priorities of a wedding. “High-end” does not mean better photographer. It can be true that one “high-end” photographer is photographically more skilled than a lower or middle market photography, but it doesn’t have to be true, and it is occasionally/sometimes/often untrue.
To add more complication, clients (brides, grooms, parents) are individuals- they are not solely defined by the amount of money they spend on a wedding. The decision to spend money they choose to spend (or not to spend) can be motivated from many different human impulses. And for every 15-40 sets of people who have the same impulses to spend what they spend on their wedding, there’s a photographer (or two, or ten) that is perfect for that set of people, whose beliefs align perfectly with their beliefs, who represents what they want their wedding (and their photography) to mean.
Instead of thinking of market level as a hierarchy, where one level is better than another- think of the various market levels as a guidebook- a set of general “dos” and “don’ts” to help your business find alignment and success. There are often over-arching similarities between what people tend to believe and want at different levels of the market. It doesn’t mean one set is more right or more wrong than the other, it just means that some photographers will fit better than others- some photographers will be “righter” for that part of the market.
So, when we say that we shoot “high-end” weddings, we don’t simultaneously mean that “our weddings are better than yours” or “our clients are better people than yours” or that “we are better photographers than you are” (some of you are way better photographers than we are- more creative, more skilled, more technical- etc, but are really perfect for weddings that have lower budgets than our typical weddings do). Instead, we use that term to classify weddings whose budgets are typically $100,000 and up. Spending that amount of money on a one-day event tends to lead the people spending it to a certain set of beliefs and ideals. On the day, they dress a certain way, they act a certain way, and they expect a certain type of service and behavior from the vendors that they hire. Sure, there are variations within and outside of that set of beliefs and ideals and expectations, but if you’re in the business of branding and marketing, you have to believe there are groups of people who believe close to the same thing, so we’re going with it.
I write all of this to challenge traditional thinking for a moment. Instead of judging where you fit best in the marketplace against how great or terrible you think your photography is compared to everyone else’s, it might be more helpful to think about what you care most about, what you believe, how you want to act and interact (or not) with your clients, how you look, how you wish to dress, and how you want to be perceived by the clients that hire you, their family and their guests, and place yourself in the market based on that. Finding that you fit with a more middle market wedding is not a bad thing, it does not mean your work is (because of that realization) mediocre. You could, in fact, be intensely successful working with the middle market or high-middle market. It likely means that you will want to and need to make very different business choices than someone working at the “high-end” does- again, it doesn’t mean it’s worse or wrong, it’s just different business models have different requirements and paths to success.
When we made the decision to commit to working “high-end” weddings, we wanted to do less in volume, and we found we loved big ballroom weddings. We are not, by nature, gregarious, outgoing people. We are pretty reserved in style and demeanor. We were growing tired of running around with the bride and groom and their bridal party for an hour or two trying to be fun and entertaining and doing gobs of creative portraits because we thought we had to because that was the most important part of the photography. It is for some couples, but it isn’t for everybody. We found a great fit for ourselves in the “high-end”. We didn’t suddenly become way better photographers than we were when we did weddings with budgets in the tens of thousands. In fact, we were probably way more “creative” back then- and all of you photographers might even say our work was better back then or that we suck now.
Market level is just about where you fit best. Not about how great you are. Or even how much money you make.
I would even go so far as to say it is a choice that you should make actively. Most brands in any other field make that choice and use it to their benefit.
Target isn’t a worse company than Neiman Marcus because it is perfect for the middle market. Target also doesn’t have aspirations of becoming Neiman Marcus one day. Target found where it fit best and committed to kicking ass there. p.s. Target’s retail net income for 2011 was $2.93 billion (with a B), Neiman Marcus’ 2011 net income was $31.6 million. I would say they are both successful.
We have been trained to think hierarchically. The world just doesn’t always work that way.






Great article. Probably the bulk of wedding shooters I’m aware of that are making waves on leader boards (not that it matters, but…) and producing amazing work are shooters servicing the low-mid markets.
Thanks for writing this Jamie. I have been noticing how difficult it is to serve a variety of market levels, because the expectations are often different from one to another. I look forward to identifying what it is that my wife and I as a team want a typical wedding day to look like for us, rather than just doing what we have always done because we didn’t have a grasp of the concepts you describe in this article. Keep up the amazing work!
So to summarize what took you close to 1500 words to say.. You’re saying that anyone can shoot a high-end wedding as long as they dress and act like their high-end clients would expect you to and that your photographic skill is irrelevant.
But you’re right, that would surprise most people.
Hey Paul, thanks for stopping by. My first reaction was to comment that I had said quite a bit more than that in 1526 words (to be exact), but for purposes of my response to your comment, I’m going to go with your assertion that that is the essence of what I said.
It’s always a little difficult to know one’s intended tone from the written word, but I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that your comment was intended to be sincere and not snarky. What I’m about to say is also meant to be sincere, and intended to help further clarify my point, not to be a jab (though I understand if some will read it that way- that is most definitely not my intention).
I find it’s usually easiest to understand an example if it’s hits close to home. So, I took a look at your work and your website. You have very nice work, it’s real and honest, and has great mood to it. I don’t imagine you’ve looked at my work, but if you had, I would bet green money there’s no way in hell that you would agree that my work is 4-5 times more photographically superior than yours- and I wouldn’t assert that either. And yet, my work commands a price 4-5 times more than yours does (on a per job basis- I have no idea what your overall photography income is, and really that’s none of my business and completely irrelevant to this topic anyway).
How else would you explain that discrepancy? I say it is the difference in our target market levels.
Like I said, I do not believe it’s right to charge people money if you suck or don’t know what you’re doing. But once you reach a level of skill and competence, I believe you have a choice, or at least a discovery to make about what level of the market you wish to serve. There’s no boss or committee or higher authority that is going to call you up one day and tell you you’ve now achieved the next level of photography, and have the right to charge more and work with “higher-end” clients now. You might even hate working with those “high-end” clients. You have to be honest with yourself and look at all that you have and all that you love and determine where you are most comfortable and where your skills, talents, abilities, personality and comfort level are best matched. Certainly, some paths are more difficult than others, but some paths may also be more worthwhile and enjoyable than others. A path that takes you on an ever-ascending trip up the photography market level, may not be the right one for you, or it just might be. Or it might not be a path at all- perhaps it’s a jump to the right fit. That’s for you to decide.
I understand it defies how we think things ought to work, so I think it’s even more worthwhile to say it.
nah, my reply wasn’t snarky, just my opinion on your post.
And I get you totally. I did look at your work before today, as well. You’re right of course..in treating this as a business. Something that you do far better than me. I’ve been told that I undercharge..and my strategy is to gain more and more experience and more and more bookings before raising prices to make more money.
I still have a full-time bank job, so photography is not my full income. For me, based on your article, its not even about choosing a market, be it low-mid or high. I’m just trying to get bookings – mostly for Wedding/Engagement and Family shoots. Clearly, at my wedding price of ~$2100 i’m in the LOW-end market.
Your article doesn’t say how you go from LOW to MID to HIGH (in any order) other than just price adjustments, as far as I can tell.
The article wasn’t intended to be a “how-to”, but more to raise awareness that things might not work like many of us assume they do, and that there is always choice to be made- whether it is made actively or passively, is up to each individual.
I’m not even saying that you (or one) SHOULD go from low to mid to high- more to help everyone understand that there is a choice in the matter, that it’s much more complex than just how good of a photographer you are, and that the ability to serve a higher end market is just as much (or more so) about factors beyond photographic skill.
If you wish to move up-market, you have give others the ability to perceive you as belonging there. The first step starts with you and how you present yourself and what you believe. Your price is just one factor you can use to communicate where you belong in the market. The way you talk about your work, the way you look, the way you dress, the design of your website- all of these factors communicate. But even more than all of those things, it is about what your work and your brand stands for. The values behind it. When you can identify what that is, and make it so that choosing to hire you clearly means something specific about them and what they believe, then where you belong, what part of the market should be hiring you, and what you should be charging will become clearer to you. Brands can and do transcend market levels, but most are at least targeted at one part of the market or the other.
Gotcha. Thanks for your replies, Jamie.
Great article Jamie. Lots of good info to think about.
To add to the discussion you and Paul are having… I think you’re spot on about you, your personality and the manner in which you conduct yourself and your business needing to align with your target market (defined strictly by wedding budget.) I also got to thinking that your price doesn’t necessarily reflect what market you’re in either. I think you alluded to it in the article, but you can charge $5k and be booked by a client with a $100k wedding and you can be booked by a client with a $20k wedding at the same time. I’d say that how good your photos are probably means a lot more to the $20k client than to the $100k client, but you’re making the same either way. I’d could probably build a case for photographers with less talent to make a better living at the high end of the market where creativity matters less and technical quality matters more. But customer service expectations are higher too with big budget clients.
I guess what I’m saying is that you can classify weddings into low medium and high end by budget, but that doesn’t necessarily map to what they’re willing to pay for photography and a lot of photographers could potentially make much more money by not chasing “high-end” weddings, instead focusing on five figure weddings where photography gets a bigger piece of the pie.
Oh btw, Target and Neiman Marcus may market themselves differently, but there is considerable overlap in their customer base. When NM shoppers need toothpaste or diapers, they go to Target (not Walmart). The two companies are actually exploring a cross promotional relationship. Checkout this article:
http://www.neimanmarcus.com/blog/womens/neiman-marcus-target
The point of that is that just because someone is on a “Target budget” doesn’t mean they won’t go to Neiman’s when they want to treat themselves to something nice. It just needs to be important to them. Neiman’s recognizes this and wants more Target shoppers treating themselves at their stores.
(that was a lot more than I intended to write.)
loved this post! such great points and well made. the target vs NM example was spot on- wish everyone could read this!
Sorry if I’m digging up an old post – but I found it interesting that I probably read this before and it didn’t really sink in, now I’m 9-12 months down the line and realising that there’s some sort of inherent expectation for wedding photographers to work their way up that ladder towards the high end, and something in my gut was telling me it felt wrong for me. Now I read this post again and I realise that it’s because of everything except my photography – it’s that set of beliefs about what a wedding should be that I want to have in common with with my clients, the expectation of how I present myself, and how I interact with people. Thanks for posting about something that’s often misunderstood, and not often discussed…
No problem about commenting on an old post Julie. In fact, it has given me an idea for another post for next week.
- todd